tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post114363781203044925..comments2024-03-15T04:02:42.341-04:00Comments on CrimLaw: WiFi "Theft"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1143726661007948052006-03-30T08:51:00.000-05:002006-03-30T08:51:00.000-05:00Butch,Actually, in your closed door example the me...Butch,<BR/><BR/>Actually, in your closed door example the mere fact that the door is closed is more the equivalent of putting some sort of protection on the WiFi connection. The closed door (protection on the WiFi) announces to the world that it is not welcome. What laws like this one do is punish me if the occupant of the apartment is playing music so loud I can clearly hear it and I'm dancing to it either in the hall (a public area) or my own apartment.Ken Lammershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15646250142814585354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1143724971162154862006-03-30T08:22:00.000-05:002006-03-30T08:22:00.000-05:00Anon1: Sorry, I was in a hurry and was imprecise w...Anon1: Sorry, I was in a hurry and was imprecise with my usage of terms. And, yes, I think passing laws to make life easier for law enforcement is pretty weak as well. However, I also know that it happens every time the Virginia General Assembly is in session (I can't speak for other States).Ken Lammershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15646250142814585354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1143681550288256712006-03-29T20:19:00.000-05:002006-03-29T20:19:00.000-05:00"illicit acts such as...downloading porn". Well k..."illicit acts such as...downloading porn". Well kiddie porn, yes, but are there states which have criminalized downloading adult porn where the laws withstood Constitutional challenge?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1143659511455600112006-03-29T14:11:00.000-05:002006-03-29T14:11:00.000-05:00Sssshhhhh. Do you want Eliot Spitzer to find out ...Sssshhhhh. Do you want Eliot Spitzer to find out about this? I'm sure he could find a way to take over jurisdiction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1143648377469122772006-03-29T11:06:00.000-05:002006-03-29T11:06:00.000-05:00I've always thought that the wrong of using anothe...I've always thought that the wrong of using another's network was that you are effectively cheating the service provider. To me, it follows that Ken is doing nothing wrong because he is paying for wireless access to someone. If he were using the other network without paying anyone, he would be getting the benefit with paying a fee to anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1143647660018415192006-03-29T10:54:00.000-05:002006-03-29T10:54:00.000-05:00Why should I be responsible for that?For the same ...<I>Why should I be responsible for that?</I><BR/><BR/>For the same reason you should be responsible for entering an apartment after trying all the doors in the hall until you found one that is unlocked. Even if you live in the building and are trying doors because you are blind folded and have trouble finding your own door. <BR/><BR/>The residents should lock their doors for their own protection, but should not be required to in order to keep you out. You should take off your blind fold and not attempt entering where you have no permission.<BR/><BR/>You should uncheck the connection property setting that says 'automatically connect to non-preferred networks' (take off the blind fold).Butch Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159535335523677630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1143644374264944502006-03-29T09:59:00.000-05:002006-03-29T09:59:00.000-05:00Ken, Two points. In the “hacker” community, “ward...Ken, Two points. In the “hacker” community, “wardriving” usually means just looking for open networks and recording their location. It does not mean actually using them.<BR/><BR/>The justification that a law requires that access to networks be limited in order to make “law enforcement’s” job easier is somewhat weak, as this essentially makes it a rational purpose of a law to restrict the freedom of others to conduct an otherwise legitimate activity in order to simply detect some evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com