tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post115391540154642910..comments2024-03-15T04:02:42.341-04:00Comments on CrimLaw: MPC Garbage & Teaching CrimLawUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1153969468648149702006-07-26T23:04:00.000-04:002006-07-26T23:04:00.000-04:00I recently broke my hand, otherwise I'd have more ...I recently broke my hand, otherwise I'd have more to say about this topic. At my law school we have two crim profs, one who is 100% MPC (Ohio is a so called MPC state) and another who is all 5 part model of aa crime/common law. I had the latter. Personally, I found the theoretical aspects of understanding the five variable model and the common law gave me a solid understanding of the <BR/>"fudamentals", a methodology for understanding any crime. How, this works in practice, who knows, but it worked in my brain as Crim was my one full on A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1153968868003781122006-07-26T22:54:00.000-04:002006-07-26T22:54:00.000-04:00Even in those States where a code has been accepte...Even in those States where a code has been accepted the MPC is badly dated and not a suitable way to teach crimlaw. I remember reading in law school that it hadn't been updated or adopted by a new State in over 15 years (that would make it well over 20 years now); most significantly, it has been rejected by the feds.<BR/><BR/>We weren't taught any drug offenses while studying the MPC, nor anything about sentencing (which I believe was because the MPC's sentencing structure has been generally rejected), and our professor specifically double taught us the MPC and common law for murder (generally it was thought that this was because he thought the MPC was right, but had to teach common law because the MPC scheme had been rejected).<BR/><BR/>I still say that someone who has been taught common law larceny, embezzlement, and larceny by trick will have an easier time learning the combined "theft" in an MPC based penal code than someone who was taught theft to have to go back and learn the various common law crimes. It also provides a broader range of knowledge and historical perspective.Ken Lammershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15646250142814585354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1153952169957481122006-07-26T18:16:00.000-04:002006-07-26T18:16:00.000-04:00Ken, Virginia's approach is more and more of an ou...Ken, <BR/><BR/>Virginia's approach is more and more of an outlier in criminal law. So the MPC really is very helpful for students who are going to practice in lots of states. Just not in Va.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4098620.post-1153929017268372422006-07-26T11:50:00.000-04:002006-07-26T11:50:00.000-04:00As someone that does his best to avoid your state,...As someone that does his best to avoid your state, opting for Thurgood Marshall over national (it is called something new now, but I forget what), I can state that many states have penal codes that are closer to the MPC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com